According to the FBI, only 8% of all rapes reported in the US are ';unfounded'; but not necessarily false. (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/Cius_97/96CRIME/9鈥?/a> 1997 was the last report in which they calculated that.
Figures in the UK bear this out as well. (http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/鈥?/a>Why do some people think false reports are so high when the FBI states otherwise?
The ';Not necessarily false'; is the key here. Lawyers and police across the nation report that many charges are recanted, which does not make it into FBI stats on rape, because these cases never go to trial. Interviews with some of these women (in the military) admitted that they lied out of spite or in order to get revenge. I don't doubt that a significant portion of the recantations are based upon fear, especially if the rapist is a gang member. However the recantations are troubling as they introduce so much uncertainty into the analysis.
In addition, women often accuse the wrong man, just as men often accuse the wrong man for a crime. In a highly emotional state people tend to lose the details while others enter a focused state of awareness in which every detail is memorized. It's unfortunate, but it is a well known fact that eyewitnesses are not entirely reliable. That's why it is so marvelous that we have DNA testing (although the US Supreme Court ruled that prisoners do not have the Right to have a DNA test). I hope that ruling is overthrown very quickly.Why do some people think false reports are so high when the FBI states otherwise?
In the last two weeks, I've read and heard about three false reports of sexual assault and rape, one of them was a friend of a friend.
Falsely reporting rape is obviously a problem as evidenced by the FBI report.
';The 'unfounded' rate, or percentage of complaints determined through investigation to false, is higher for forcible rape than any other indexed crime.';
Saying ';only 8 percent'; is trivializing the suffering that these men had to go through.
Louisebro, you're an idiot.
For me, it's because literally every single independently done study that I've seen has said otherwise. Most independent studies will say something in the 25% range, although a few have said more than that.
Forget what the stats say. I don't care if 1% or 99% of rape accusations are false. The fact that many people act as if we should take a woman at her word as soon as she says ';I was raped'; is what gets me. The people who act as if women never lie about rape are the ones who get me. I don't support becoming so defensive we automatically assume the woman is lying, but that possibility needs to be thought of.
Um...am I the only one that is getting told both of those are bad links?
But anyway, there are other studies that say otherwise I don't feel like hunting them down at the moment, especially since neither of those links seem to work.
EDIT: Gunter I second the opinion of your last line. She is either an idiot or an ideologue -- oh saying that is redundant, isn't it?
';...who deny the extent of violence against women...';
She's trying to make it sound like the problem of ';violence against women'; is actually higher than that against men. Women commit as much DV as men, and men experience a much higher rate of violence and murder in public,so that means that men are more the victims of violent crimes than women by a long shot, and we have this ninny trying to make it sound like it is the opposite.
http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.h鈥?/a>
Lying ideologue edit #2:@edith:
';Where is all the concern for all of the supposedly innocent men who's names are being ruined by false accusations of murder, assault, robbery and arson';
Women are falsely accusing men of these at a high rate? No, didn't think so. Can you show me one example of a woman making a false accusation of murder at a man? Also, it is fairly easy to show that someone is actually being falsely accused of these crimes and there is actually physical evidence. No one is getting convicted of murder just because a vindictive woman is pointing the finger at someone -- there is forensic evidence, DNA evidence, witnesses, alibis. How many eye witnesses are there for rapes? Usually none.
';It's obvious these guys don't care about all the women ';falsely'; accusing men of drug abuse, driving drunk, assaulting them, or stealing from them.';
Yes we do. That's why we make it known how bad VAWA is, and wish to have it repealed. You NEVER saw any man pointing out how terrible VAWA is? We do that all the time. WAIT A SECOND! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?! ROFLMFAO! You think women make false reports about men driving drunk? HAHAHA! Even if that could happen, the police have this thing called a breathalizer test. No one is being false accused of drunk driving, because it can easily be proved that someone is or is not drunk behind the wheel. Unless you are referring those false claims made to get warrantless restraining orders and then use them in divorce court to destroy men thanks to the evil, feminist-penned Unconstitution garbage called VAWA. As I said we constantly let it be known how terrible VAWA is. There is something seriously wrong with you.
Stats can be bent towards either side, people will see what they want to see. Even if a rape claim is never taken to the police and charged, it can still have a big affect on the person accused. Word will spread around school, the community, the church and these people will be social outcasts. Rape is horrible, Lord knows I would rip the throat out of anything that did it to my children but I also see that some women (maybe men too, I have never seen it) use it as an escape for when they did something they are having second thoughts on and it is falsely believed too much to the point where men are scared to do this or that in fear of being called a rapist.
Well, if you were one of the 8 people out of a hundred who was falsely accused and possibly convicted and possibly labeled as a sex offender for the rest of your life or if you knew how to empathize with them, you would know why this was a problem.
You havent asked this question in only a few hours...congrats!
on wiki (i know it's wiki) they report that police report 250,000 rape cases annually in 65 countries. 10 % is 25000 is it not? That's 2 percent higher than what you're saying. So you'll ignore a minimum 20000 peoples plight due to false accusation with all the legal problems that come with it? Good for you.
see-look to weezy brown above, she's the first to ignore that womyn can lie, and it don't matter to her as long as they get that MAN behind bars.
weezy-lol
So it is 8% and not 2% like feminist claim? Another feminist lie exposed..
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/arti鈥?/a>
';';';feminists claim false rape accusations are rare and account for only 2 percent of all reports';';';
and what? 90% are ';founded'; but not necessarily true?
It's the way certain feminists try to shout down any idea of gils lying about rape, and try to minimilise it, when certain people think its a big issue.
I think it's probably for the same reason as people saying that over half of rapes go unreported... (How in hell could they possibly know that... They are making that crap up to further their own political point of view!)
PS: Both your links are broken
A lot of people who think that the reports are false are also the people who troll in this section.
Also, Herr Highness scares me.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jamiranda/why鈥?/a>
Paragraph 3
Maybe you should find out the *current* statistics, not ones from 12 years ago, before you ask this question.
That's not to say that 8% isn't alarmingly high already.
Because www.GirlsAreIcky.com has ';proved'; that the FBI is a feminist shill, don't you know?
Wishful thinking...
Only 8%???? Do you realize how much that represents? That's high enough.
Because they are sexist-if these men really cared about other men and not about bashing women, they'd be JUST as concerned about the false reports of murder, assault, robbery and arson-which are all violent crimes, with the majority of the convicted being men. Where is all the concern for all of the supposedly innocent men who's names are being ruined by false accusations of murder, assault, robbery and arson? If you're convicted of murder, the average sentence ppl spend in prison is 19 years.
If they don't care about years in prison, why don't they care about the violent crime that most ppl were accused of in 2007: aggravated assault? Aggravated assault accounted for 60.8 percent of violent crimes, the highest number of violent crimes reported to law enforcement. Robbery comprised 31.6 percent and forcible rape accounted for 6.4 percent. Murder accounted for 1.2 percent of estimated violent crimes in 2007: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/offenses鈥?/a>
If they don't care about the violent crime that has the highest percentage of males are arrested for, what about the crimes (either non-violent or violent) that has the highest physical number of males arrested for in 2007:http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2007/data/tab鈥?/a>
1) Drug abuse violations 833,941
2) Driving under the influence 626,371
3) Other assaults 560,655
4) Larceny-theft 413,125
It's obvious these guys don't care about all the women ';falsely'; accusing men of drug abuse, driving drunk, assaulting them, or stealing from them.
In fact false allegations about ANY crime run along about the same percentage rates, if not slightly higher in crimes other than rape.
Basically, why let good old hard facts about the reality of crimes against women get in the way of a near hysterical anti-woman/feminist backlash? When it suits those on here who deny the extent of violence against women, they conveniently argue that the FBI is not a major crime fighting bureau, but a feminist hive at the centre of the conspiracy wishing to wreak havoc on all defenceless men! And J Edgar Hoover was a s butch as they come!!! lol
steal you...let me remind you that this is Q %26amp; A not chat, you dimwit! I will report you for persoanl intrusion...oh! and of the 90+% of rape cases that are not false allegations how many do you think get before the courts...why don't you show moral outrage about that you set of mealy mouthed number crunchers!
They just don't get it. If a woman accuses a man of sexual assault, we should always believe her. Because if we don't, this just increases her trauma. It is a second rape by the system. Why should she have to go though the ordeal of a ';trial'; when we all know there is no such thing as a false accusation?
Anyway, all men are rapists in one way or another.
none of your links work
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